After the devastating impact of bushfires and COVID-19, what should our economic recovery plan look like? Where should our priorities lie when it comes to jobs and growth post-pandemic? Joining Hamish Macdonald to discuss this and more are: Mike Cannon-Brookes, Co-founder and co-CEO of Atlassian; Darren Chester, Minister for Veterans' Affairs and Defence Personnel; Mark Butler, Shadow Minister for Climate Change and Energy; Marian Wilkinson, Investigative journalist and author, The Carbon Club; Yun Jiang, Editor, China Story blog at the Australian National University. Includes a musical performance from Alex the Astronaut.